Hardly Made a Dent

My last blog finished up to Summary E 5.  So now on to Summary E 6, I noticed it has 8 sub parts to it, so I think I can get through that much. Then I can see if I want to go on or it call it a night.

I have only had the desire to meet.  I have stated earlier that I did have one requirement, a mediator. What Donnie takes as feigned attempts were not to me.  I told him repeatedly that if I answer a question he needs to answer one of mine.  But you will see as you read on I was the one on trial.

I still believe the meeting referred to was in October or September but that doesn't matter here.  I did not try to hide the invoices.  I was told to bring them and I did.  Just a week before this meeting Cody called me and said that if I could bring a break down of the checks that would be great.  I said like how I put them in the GL account.  He said yes.  So I did that too.  I broke each check out by GL accounts.  That is what they asked for at the meeting.  As Donnie stated earlier he was told not to ask for the invoices because they didn't want to embarrass me.
At this meeting I have stated earlier that I took Jesse with me.  There were so many odd things being said to me around this time by Cody and Donnie that I had a strong impression to take a witness with me.  I believe they didn't ask for the invoices because they were setting me up to fail and they wanted fuel to push me away from them.

This what I believe a mediator is.  The reason I wanted one from the start was I feel I am ran over by these three.  I wanted to be heard not interrogated. I was not stalling.  Time doesn't buy you anything but heartache in this kind of situation.  I feel they feared a third party as much as I feared meeting with them without one.

So you didn't meet with me because of something Tom said.  Why?  There it is, I was willing to meet as one on one but you backed out. You were burning tumbleweeds, not loco weed.

I had no desire to meet with them.  They refused and still do to this day to let me have a mediator.  I have said time and time again they could pick the person and I would pay for their time.

Which I took as a law allowing her not to answer.  That is all I got was assumptions. That is why in my heart I always wanted a mediator.  It had been like this for a long time.  They never asked what I meant by anything.  They just assumed what I meant and went on.  

At this time Tom and Cody had by-passed me when it came to getting permission to work on things.  Especially the DeLong tractor.  That is why I referred or offered to bring Tom to the meeting.  

 

 Oh yes Donnie I am saying that.  See how dramatic they are?  If jumping to conclusions were cow pies he would be neck deep.  In the Arizona Revised Statues members can get copies anytime during business hours.  They only needed to come by anytime, long before they took action.  I was more than willing to have my office help in the valley make the copies while I was up at the ranch. That is what I was trying to say.  I figured either you or Cody would look up your rights in the Arizona Revised Statues like I did.
I can't even keep a straight face when I read these.  Can I say I object and have the Judge say You are leading the witness.
Next time just ask a simple question instead of an insult.

I wrote [ I will return if it was like it used to be.  I will be up there week to week and you guys come when you want and when you are needed.]
They took a typed out sentence and rewrote it how they read it. It makes a big difference when you add words and delete others. Please find the email and cut and paste the exact words I used.  It would only be proper.

Ok we see here Tom wants to meet. A little history of why this sudden interest in our goals, we had just started running our own herd of  cattle at the ranch.

Yes 20 days have past.  Tom had to talk to his lawyer to see if it would be ok since there is an active court case between the two parties. See what I mean about his assuming.  

So Tom has the ok to meet.

I don't know why it went south.  Our lawyer said it would be great.  Then the answer comes from them to file our answer. 

We believe their lawyer said no way but they blamed it on Tom. This gave me a headache then as I read through the volley between them and it gave me another writing this.  Please if anyone can explain why we called off the meeting then contact me and walk me through this.

(copied from above so you could see the reason why it is our fault(?))

Donnie I want to meet.  Tom wants to meet.  I want a mediator but I will meet with you if you will take Tom and I.  Then no need for a mediator.  I did not want to yell at you, but you assume away.

Maybe I appear reasonable because I am. I do not hide information, I want tit for tat.  You ask a question and I ask a question.  I see no sign you want to meet.

This is it for the night.  Plenty more to come.  I've said it before, this letter is long.  

Peace is only an answer away.

Get Saddled We Are Burning Daylight

I will try to make this as less confussing as possiable.
Under the heading SUMMARY on the email from Don, it has A through E listings. Those have sub-listings. On my first Answer Blog I addressed E 1. I will now attempt to answer E 2 then on to E 3, ect. I may not get all the way through E and its sub-listings as not to make a book out of each blog but a short read.

As you can see there are 10 parts to E, and I have only addressed E 1 so far. 9 more to go.
Check your cinch and apply the spurs, bring the whole herd, leave nothing behind.

Exhibit 2014-12-17

Summary E 2 page 2
This is the email I recieved as I was headed back up to the ranch from my two days in the Valley. I was shocked, hurt, devistated. But confused was the thing I remember the most. At this time, This exact time I had put out an email the week before begging them to come help me, we had gates down, a bull was found almost all the way to Concho, another bull was at the big mill and I had him trapped without water. It was more than Tom and I could do ourselves. They couldn't come. They sent Greg Nicoll. And he was a blessing. Why couldn't they come? Because they had already taken Monday off work to follow through on kicking me off the ranch. I was still calling Cody for advice and help. This is more than months after the meeting and no mention of still needing invoices. When the invoices were finally asked for it was now after they had removed me. Not the two months between the meeting and the day they forcible removed me. We had worked together shipping cattle and nothing was said. Don keeps illuminating to meetings in November and/or December. I was not told of them, invited to them, nothing. I will not address this letter piece by piece because it is broke down in the main email and I will address it then.

Summary E 3 page 2 I would like to know how looking at a bank statement you can tell that payments were made without approval. Did they not need invoices to make that judgement. How could they be afraid of embarrassing me by not asking for the invoices but have no regard to my feelings to kick me off the ranch. This is when the "shouldn't say this person" inside me says "Boy I am glad you are not my judge in heaven". Why did you not press for the invoices, or have a meeting with me to discuss this? I had completely forgotten about the invoices with shipping and winter coming on.  Plus at the meeting you all seemed satisfied with the copies of the checks and the brake down of each check I provided.

Exhibit 2015-05-13

Exhibit 2015-05-13

Exhibit 2014 8-4

Summary E 4 page 3 I don't have much of a response to the letter or the email. I was in Utah and didn't have anyway or desire to answer to them.Oh, heck I had not desire to do anything but wake up, take my dogs for a walk and go to the temple to receive the peace and guidance I needed at this time. All the paperwork that could help me answer if I had wanted to was in Arizona. At this time I felt no mercy from them, not mercy as forgive me I have sinned but the mercy that should be extended when a family or a family member is going through a hard time or trial. I will state that when I did say I would return to ranching I said "Like it used to be, you guys come when you want and when your needed". I did not say in management position and I did not say only when you are needed, I believe we all have the right to be there when our soul needs to just be there for our souls sake. Right after I did write that I got a reply from Steve and he had twisted to say what you just said in your summary. I explained, but just like me being put on the carpet for Cody's cattle purchase, it still remained the same. I couldn't do anything right. I lived under a filthy dirty magnifying glass. It is hard to see clearly when you are looking through the bad. By this time I had realized there was no use. Everything was to be turned against me. I would never have a mediator that would see how things got twisted and help straighten it out.

Summary E 5 page 3 This Summary E 5 gets broke down to into 12 points. I hope to get through them all in this blog post. This is really a lot more work than I supposed. I need a Pepsi.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 1 page 6 It is true I do not agree with everything Tom does. I don't agree with everything most people do. Heck I have been known to be disapointed in myself. But I will never try to control anyone. I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in self control, with that said I am not the best babysitter for my self. I struggle with my own self control. Under this thinking if someone doesn't stop or control someone else from doing something they don't agree with then they are Untied? Then can I assume you agreed with the Federal Agency of BLM setting up free speech zones on the Bundy Ranch?

Summary E 5 page 3 United 2 page 6/7 This an email from Tom to Steve's Stake President. Once again I don't always agree but I will not stop a person from doing what they feel is right. Tom in a previous email had asked if he could call Steve and Tom in for a meeting. Tom explained that Steve is bullying me. Tom felt this was an option to get a face to face with Steve. You guys will not sit down with Tom. Tom is just trying, like me, to understand where you are coming from. Not answer your questions only but to answer all questions, both sides.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 3 page 7 Previous to this Tom had asked Steve to meet with him. Tom is trying to protect his wife (me) in the best ways he sees available.

FROM HERE ON DOWN I ANSWERED TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING UNITED. IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH GOSSIP AS TO INFLUENCE HIS AUDIANCE TO REMOVE ME FROM THE LLC
The discord was one sided. Steve has always had a problem with Tom. It is said if you have a problem with someone, it is your problem. I did not ask you to intervene. I asked you to protect me as in when we were in group emails to stop Steve from cutting everyone else off the email and berating me. That is all I asked. If Steve had the need to say something personal to me then he needed to keep it out in the open. I did not ask you to judge between us, or judge who was right.  I just wanted wittnesses of how he treats me when he thinks no one is around.You could not do that simple task. That is all I asked. Tom never had a cross word with Steve, yet Steve verbally abuse Tom in our house when Steve come to see his mother who had moved in with us as she was passing. Karen sat there with shock and horror on her face. She did not stop him. Did she agree with what he was doing. In my book no, in your yes.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 5 page 7 So because others had discord with Tom and nothing happened between you, Cody and Tom, you both felt you needed to step away from him? Now that is solid thinking there. Have you personally talked to each person you named? If not, do you have the right to write something like that?

Summary E 5 page 3 United 6 page 7 I said nothing even close to this fabrications. You made up this whole paragraph to shock and influence your audience that you sent this too. The Lord knows what I said. And He now knows you heart.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 7 page 7 Well bless your heart. Wait, United, huh? Where is the part about evil Tom?

Summary E 5 page 3 United 8 page 7 I have only said from the first our family would be back together. I turned to Tom, I did not turn from my kids. You sir are a gossip monger with a cold heart when it comes to compassion and understanding how people may feel.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 9 page 7 What in the crap does this have to do with United? Cody's card came with a letter. The letter had evil intent in it. It was not the appropriate time for what he said.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 10 page 7-8 I feel this is judging without sitting down and asking me where I am coming from. But maybe that is the definition of  unrighteous judging.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 11 page 8 I was sitting next to Jesse as he was texting Chris. I had plenty of input of what was being exchanged between the two. So yes they did not tell me I participated. We have the text. It only asked about section 36. If we would of known you meant section 31 then we would of know we would of been in trouble.Had the fences been built on section 36 our cattle could of still walked to the mill and got a drink.  Where Steve built it took both options of water from them   Do you need to see the text? Jesse said please let us know when you are fixing the fence because we would love to help. Thinking it would be about a half mile fence. Not 10 feet. That dang Tom and his schemes. I would not had a lack of water if the fence would of been built on section 36 and not east of the right-away on section 31. Big difference. I think the word scheme could apply to others listed in this paragraph, and it author.

Summary E 5 page 3 United 12 page 8 Dad gum. The story behind this story is listed later under another heading, so you still don't get to read the elaborate scheme we devised to frame poor ole Cody. Just believe me it was the hand of the Lord revealing things to us that we really didn't want to witness. But your version would make a wonderful short story or chapter in a book.

That's it for tonight. There are still miles to ride to find all the cattle. I think I will make camp here for the night. Just enough daylight to gather some wood for a fire for cooking and keeping the wolves at bay. There are plenty of wolves out on this range.